Im sorry but at what stage are we allowed to question a riders performance? Say I see a 55+ rider posting 4.6wkg 20min? The rider in question races Age 55+ and A grade which is great, but a rider pushing those numbers beating everyone every race A included begs the question. Claimed weight of 63kg but the numbers don't really add up when you look through the results.
I know it is sour grapes on my behalf (dream of those type of numbers) perhaps, but history says when it looks to good to be true it usually is.
Probikefit- wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:08 am
Im sorry but at what stage are we allowed to question a riders performance? Say I see a 55+ rider posting 4.6wkg 20min? The rider in question races Age 55+ and A grade which is great, but a rider pushing those numbers beating everyone every race A included begs the question. Claimed weight of 63kg but the numbers don't really add up when you look through the results.
I know it is sour grapes on my behalf (dream of those type of numbers) perhaps, but history says when it looks to good to be true it usually is.
You can PM me or message us on FB.

Or I can look at your results and find him quite easily................

I don't see anything suspicious in his data:-

Weight/height is consistent.
HRR (Average Power/Average Heart Rate) consistent.
Race Reports (rightmost column) normal; heart rate increases in line with power for example.
Power profile normal.
He's not tripped any Elite level markers- 5.2 w/kg for 20 mins; 6.1 w/kg for 5 mins; 9.8 w/kg for 1min; 20.9 for 5s)
OK so no strava profile linked but not a big issue.

He tends to focus on age related events where he is clearly competitive; but I can assure you he wouldn't be so competitive in a quality Cat A field.
For example he is 201st in the Ranking List for his age group, although that is partly because of the events he concentrates on.
On Zwift every other rider is less than 70kg or pushing out 350W plus, but when you’re out in real life most riders are struggling to hold 17mph on the flat! On an average club ride or in a trail centre you’re more likely to see a chubby person on an expensive bike than a 70kg 400W monster!
Fozzzer wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:54 am
On Zwift every other rider is less than 70kg or pushing out 350W plus, but when you’re out in real life most riders are struggling to hold 17mph on the flat! On an average club ride or in a trail centre you’re more likely to see a chubby person on an expensive bike than a 70kg 400W monster!
LOL it's not far off that :) The number of fast people on Zwift i see is INSANE... most would walk it in Elite MTB races from what i've seen.

MAybe they never ever go outside :)
It’s a few types of selection bias. Zwift races have a higher percentage of strong riders because they attract strong riders. Think of the pipeline of who would be interested in Zwift then interested to race on zwift then have higher grade equipment to race on (A/B race rules) and then keep racing (because they are enjoy races).

How many club riders consistently get 5+ hrs a week of tempo and threshold training? Most of the top performers are putting in 2-3 base rides and 2-3 top end races a week. The people who can stick with an A+ or A group tend to enjoy racing more so they race more.

By a similar token Zwift riders are demographically lighter than the general population. So people who consistently bike indoors weigh less.
But where are they all on the roads of the country you may live in?

Surely they don’t only ever ride on Zwift.
Fair enough Sticky I don't have any problem with his power seems reasonable, it the 63kg that get me. :-)
Power numbers aren't unreasonable. I agree weight could be questionable, but *shrug*

Comparative data point:
- 50 yrs old
- riding on Zwift since July after 6 months completely off
- previous best ever form was 370W at threshold in my 20s 5W/kg
- current 20 minute form 4.2W/kg @ 72kg
- 191st in category B for racing as I do mostly smaller races (NZ timezones suck!)

I usually finish with A grade riders on Zwift.
I know I would get my butt kicked in an A grade or elite road race here in NZ or an elite/A grade high-profile race here on Zwift.
It doesn't particularly trip my radar or worry me to see riders of the profile mentioned above because I know I'm legit and that legit riders matching that profile also exist.
How are they letting you ride B @ 4.2w kg? Im just on the edge and they bump my ass up to A / @72kg I am skinny as, why don't they link their account to their Strava account? If legitimate surely it would be a no brainer? Anyway I will just have to train harder off the bike and eat s more Specialised diet. Lol
PS Nice Drapac Jersey